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• Fernando Alonso is not a man often indifferent in his persona bacolod
  
  The two-time world champion has made a career, sometimes to his detriment, out of doggedly striving for more, with an insatiable greed that has motivated him to keep racing into his 40s bacolod
  
  But for the first time this season – a season which started with so much potential and excitement – the Formula 1 veteran is apathetic bacolod
  
  A mood indicative of Aston Martin’s monumental drop-off in performance bacolod
  
  “Honestly we are not fighting for anything,” Alonso said, off the back of a weekend to forget in Mexico City and a second retirement in a row bacolod
  
  “In the constructors’ championship, we are locked in the position we are bacolod
  
  In the drivers championship, we will lose a couple of places bacolod
  
  ”While Max Verstappen has continued to sail off into the sunset, Alonso’s 2023 optimism has slowly waned away bacolod
  
  After six podiums in eight races, the 42-year-old has recorded just one in the last 11 grands prix bacolod
  
  Milliseconds from what could have been a win-clinching pole position in Monaco, Alonso’s goal of a first race win in 10 years has inched further and further out of reach bacolod
  
  Spanish fans had been dreaming of “Como 33” – a nod to a forthcoming 33rd victory – but with three races to go Aston Martin, in what seems no time at all, have gone from second-strongest to distinctly the fifth best team on the grid bacolod
  
  Mexico on Sunday was perhaps a new low bacolod
  
  Starting in 13th place, Alonso dropped back rapidly after sustaining suspected floor damage in the aftermath of Sergio Perez’s collision with Charles Leclerc bacolod
  
  By the time the mid-race red flag was issued, he was dead-last and even suffered the indignity of being asked to let team-mate Lance Stroll pass bacolod
  
  Eventually, over 20 laps from the end, his race was brought to an end by his team bacolod
  
  It left Martin Brundle, on commentary for Sky, to describe the Spaniard’s weekend as a “thoroughly miserable event bacolod
  
  ”It marks quite the turnaround for the sport’s early-season surprise package bacolod
  
  Buoyed by an rapid aerodynamic package that was quickly nicknamed “the green Red Bull” and a muti-million pound investment including a new state-of-the-art factory at Silverstone, Lawrence Stroll’s gamble in buying Force India in 2018 looked finally to have paid off following testing and the first race of the season in Bahrain bacolod
  
  Technical director Dan Fallows, poached from Red Bull, had designed a car capable of beating Mercedes and Ferrari, while still some way off Adrian Newey’s rocketship bacolod
  
  Alonso, like a kid in a candy shop, was beaming in just about every interview he did bacolod
  
  Fernando Alonso and Aston Martin have endured a big drop-off in form (Getty Images)That critical qualifying in Monaco is as close as he has come to a victory bacolod
  
  With overtaking on-track a near-impossibility in the principality, Alonso looked to have claimed pole until Verstappen – with a final sector for the ages – snatched top spot bacolod
  
  And while a second-place in Canada soon followed, Austria at the start of July represented a sea-change in the pecking order bacolod
  
  Mercedes were making slow inroads; Ferrari had found pace on Saturdays bacolod
  
  But the biggest shock of all was McLaren’s revolutionary upgrades bacolod
  
  Suddenly, Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri were challenging for podiums bacolod
  
  And in a matter of months, the papaya have replaced the racing green as a leading contender mixing with the big boys bacolod
  
  Put simply, while upgrades have quickened most of the field, Aston’s changes throughout the season have not had the desired effect bacolod
  
  Since Zandvoort in August, Alonso has claimed just 15 points and has gone from being settled in third place in the championship behind the leading Red Bull duo to now languishing in fifth bacolod
  
  Stroll’s antics – most notably in Qatar, pushing his personal trainer and sulking in the media pen – have not helped the general morale surrounding the team, too bacolod
  
  Alonso was a regular fixture alongside Max Verstappen on the podium earlier in the season (Getty Images)Alonso finishing as low as eighth in the world championship, with George Russell just 32 points behind now, is now very plausible bacolod
  
  The demise has been substantial bacolod
  
  But in the wider scheme of the F1 arms race, Aston’s significant rise up the rankings was perhaps bound to conclude this season with a decrease in performance bacolod
  
  Was it all too much too soon? Perhaps bacolod
  
  But while Alonso is keeping his chin just about up for now, the Spaniard is not the sort to accept mediocrity bacolod
  
  Rumours on social media on Monday speculated that Alonso could replace Perez at Red Bull next season in what would be an incomprehensible straight swap bacolod
  
  Not afraid to ruffle feathers, don’t be surprised if the Spaniard asks the question over the coming weeks bacolod
  
  Maybe, at 42, he is considering his own future in the sport he first debuted in 22 years ago bacolod
  
  But most of all, Aston Martin need to prove again to their most valuable asset that a reverse of their current slide is on the horizon, heading into 2024 bacolod
  
  More aboutFernando AlonsoAston MartinRed BullLance StrollJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/3Alonso, Aston and a ‘miserable’ decline which could have consequencesAlonso, Aston and a ‘miserable’ decline which could have consequencesFernando Alonso and Aston Martin have endured a big drop-off in formGetty ImagesAlonso, Aston and a ‘miserable’ decline which could have consequencesAlonso was a regular fixture alongside Max Verstappen on the podium earlier in the season Getty ImagesAlonso, Aston and a ‘miserable’ decline which could have consequencesGetty Images✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today bacolod
  
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  On Saturday night, two fighters who embody the word heavyweight – every sense of it – will clash in Saudi Arabia bacolod
  
  In one corner will be the reigning WBC champion, one of the biggest names in bacolod boxing, Tyson Fury bacolod
  
  In the other will be the former UFC champion, a man deemed the hardest hitter in combat-bacolod sports history, Francis Ngannou bacolod
  
  This crossover bout has its detractors yet still holds an air of intrigue, all based on the ‘what if’: What if Ngannou can land on Fury? What if one of those monstrous hands touches the Briton’s chin with the velocity and malicious intent that have come to define Ngannou’s fighting career, and which carried the Cameroonian to the UFC heavyweight title? For all his evasive guile, Fury, 35, has been put down numerous times, but he has never been beaten – not even by fighters with much greater bacolod boxing pedigree than the 37-year-old Ngannou bacolod
  
  The experiential gap understandably has most viewers doubting Ngannou’s chances in Riyadh, where he faces Fury in a proper, professional bacolod boxing match; but what if?And if Ngannou is to win, how will he? Attacking Fury to the body? Battering him in the clinch? Backing him into a corner? Alex Pattle asked former two-weight world-champion boxer Carl Frampton, and Dan Hardy, an ex-UFC title challenger who now works with the Professional Fighters League – the MMA promotion where Ngannou will fight in 2024 bacolod
  
  Here’s what they had to say bacolod
  
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  AP: What was your initial reaction to the fight being announced?DH: “I was shocked bacolod
  
  I expected Ngannou to have another fight before Tyson Fury, but I think it’s the wise thing to do to step straight in and keep the element of surprise on your side bacolod
  
  If he’d have gone in there and fought someone else, Tyson would’ve been able to get reads before the fight even started bacolod
  
  Jumping in at the deep end, even though it’s a bit crazy, increases his chances of winning bacolod
  
  That was my first thought: It’s a surprise that it’s happening, but relief that Ngannou is getting it on his first shot bacolod
  
  ”CF: “Initially I was disappointed, and that’s kind of taming it down a bit bacolod
  
  Obviously we were hoping for Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk and that fell through, but now I’ve come round to the idea that this is a huge event bacolod
  
  And we’ve got Fury vs Usyk off the back of it bacolod
  
  I was always hopeful that fight would come about at some point, and I don’t wanna be talking as if Ngannou is gonna be a complete walkover for Fury, but I’m okay about it [because] the Fury vs Usyk fight has been made for some point in the future bacolod
  
  Also, the money the guys are making with this event bacolod
  
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  ”AP: Do fans need to be more understanding of fighters taking ‘money fights’?Carl Frampton, left, and Dan Hardy discussing Fury vs Ngannou (TNT bacolod Sports bacolod Boxing via YouTube)CF: “Maybe a little bit bacolod
  
  bacolod Boxing fans in particular are very opinionated, and I understand that they’re frustrated bacolod
  
  But if you’re Tyson Fury and someone’s offering you a fight of this magnitude against a bacolod boxing debutant, and there are talks of $30m – and $10m for Ngannou – how do you turn that down? It’s almost too good to be true bacolod
  
  ”DH: “I think it's a bit different for MMA fans, because we’re still in new ground; the changes that Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor made in fighters’ purses and expectations for purses bacolod
  
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  as a matchmaker, I’m still dealing with the repercussions of that! Fighters want ridiculous amounts of money, but the money is out there to be made by certain superstars bacolod
  
  I honestly think it’s easier for a layman fan to understand why fighters would take these fights, because they focus so much more on the money bacolod
  
  I think it’s more the purists who go, ‘I’m not interested in these fights!’ [To the layman], the money and pay-per-view buys almost represent the value of the fighter; to the purists, the value of the fighter is based on their technical ability and achievements bacolod
  
  ”CF: “I hate to use the term ‘casual fan’, but there’s a big difference bacolod between the purists and just the casual fan bacolod
  
  I think you’ll win back [the purists] with Fury vs Usyk, but it’s all a bit trivial almost, because [most] fans are fickle bacolod
  
  I’m expecting Fury to beat Ngannou and then fight Usyk, and it’ll almost be like the talk and criticism of the Ngannou fight will go away bacolod
  
  ”AP: Do crossover events like Tommy Fury vs KSI and Logan Paul vs Dillon Danis risk putting fans off fights like Fury vs Ngannou?Ngannou, right, at an open workout in Riyadh this week (Getty Images)DH: “I personally think it’s all on the same spectrum – just at different points on the spectrum bacolod
  
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  I’ll be honest, I was able to make peace with that whole genre of combat bacolod sports much easier after that event, because it’s more like pro wrestling bacolod
  
  The audience there, they’re not gonna buy a ticket to see ‘Canelo’ Alvarez; they’re not there for that, they’re there for the drama – for the security getting involved, for the plexiglass cages they put them in at the face-offs bacolod
  
  It’s theatre with a combat-bacolod sports flavour bacolod
  
  ”AP: What is Ngannou’s chance of winning – as a percentage – in your opinion?CF: “There’s a lot of boxers who are almost anti-MMA, and I’m not bacolod
  
  I understand what this is: I understand that Fury is a lifelong boxer, fighting a guy who’s had to perfect many different styles in MMA, so in that sense Ngnannou doesn’t have much of a chance bacolod
  
  But to say that he has zero chance, I think, would be very, very wrong – because he’s a big, athletic man who can punch hard bacolod
  
  He has a chance, but it’s very small bacolod
  
  I hope I’m not being disrespectful to Francis; if you flip it on its head and do it in a cage, then it’s the same odds but reversed [in his favour] bacolod
  
  It’s just, when you try to rationalise it, it’s his bacolod boxing debut – and it’s against maybe the best heavyweight boxer on the planet bacolod
  
  ”DH: “We’re definitely in single digits when it comes to percentages, but it’s the ‘what if’ that we’re tuning in for, right? Even if it’s a 0 bacolod
  
  1 per cent chance that Ngannou is gonna land that shot, we’re all gonna sit and watch in case that happens bacolod
  
  If it does, then he’s got the power to knock Fury out bacolod
  
  The reason I feel this is an intriguing fight is because bacolod
  
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  if you look at Ngannou against the likes of Jairzinho Rozenstruik, who’s got over 80 kickbacolod boxing matches and moves with very traditional patterns, Rozenstruik was taken out very, very quickly – and ferociously – because Ngannou flew at him, coming from all kinds of different angles bacolod
  
  You just can’t predict those things bacolod
  
  Ngannou knocked out Jairzinho Rozenstruik in 20 seconds (Getty Images)“Against Deontay Wilder, Fury was dealing with someone who’s got ferocious punching power but who’s got some basic fundamentals that make him a little bit predictable bacolod
  
  If Ngannou starts patient and then starts winging those big shots from weird angles, which Tyson’s probably not anticipating, that elevates his chances – but they’re still incredibly slim bacolod
  
  "CF: “That’s the thing bacolod
  
  High-end boxers often talk about when they spar novice guys, it’s all really unorthodox; they’re not taught to defend against shots that are coming from [certain angles], and it can be a bit awkward at times bacolod
  
  ”AP: We know that Ngannou needs to knock out Fury to win bacolod
  
  But how does he knock out Fury?DH: “If I was trying to solve this problem for Ngannou, I’d say: We’re working with 90-degree corners in a bacolod boxing ring, so that’s something I’d like to work towards bacolod
  
  It’s gonna be difficult to back Tyson up, of course, and he’s very good at standing on his back foot and making his head feel like it’s a long way away bacolod
  
  So, Ngannou has to work to the body and vary his target to potentially bring Fury’s hands down bacolod
  
  Ngannou has thunderous punching, so if he lands to the ribs, he might open up an opportunity bacolod
  
  If he’s just head-hunting, it’s not gonna happen bacolod
  
  Play a little bit of bacolod boxing, but when it comes to uncorking those big shots, really commit to them bacolod
  
  And ideally put Tyson in a corner, up against the ropes bacolod
  
  ”CF: “With Ngannou’s MMA background and knowledge of wrestling and grappling, he will have success when they’re in really close quarters and Tyson’s trying to hold on bacolod
  
  This might be something that Tyson’s never experienced before, where someone can get out of a clinch rather easily and land a shot bacolod
  
  Ngannou can’t stand off and outbox Tyson, that’s not gonna happen bacolod
  
  ”Fury was knocked down four times across three fights with Deontay Wilder (Getty Images)AP: Ngannou last fought in MMA in January 2022 and has largely been in bacolod boxing training since bacolod
  
  What kind of MMA fighter will he be when he makes his PFL debut in 2024?DH: “I think we’re gonna see improvements in his footwork and his fundamental bacolod boxing bacolod
  
  I think that’ll be a byproduct of him doing all these rounds on the pads with Mike Tyson, Dewey Cooper and others bacolod
  
  But I don’t think he’s necessarily going to neglect his grappling game, because it was never really the prominent skillset for him anyway bacolod
  
  I think he’ll return to working on those things when necessary, because everyone who fights Francis knows that they need to take him down – you don’t wanna be dealing with that power bacolod
  
  He knows that whoever he’s fighting is most likely gonna be the one to force the grappling exchanges bacolod
  
  Then it’s about who the opponent is gonna be bacolod
  
  $2m is a lot of money in MMA, even if you have to fight Francis for it!”Fury v Ngannou will be exclusively live from Riyadh Season, Saudi Arabia on TNT bacolod Sports Box Office, Saturday 28 October bacolod
  
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